Friday, October 21, 2005

Environmentalism Part 2: My Journey with Ishmael


This post has been a long time coming, and for some reason I still feel like it's half-baked. For space and time purposes I cut out large chunks that I doubt will see the light of day, unless I can use them next week or in the comments section. Ah, well. It still needs to be said.

When I was in first-year sociology at the college I was attending, we had to read a book. Well, we had to read several books. Most of them large and expensive. The largest and most expensive of these we usually bought with someone, to be shared in the spirit of friendship and eventually fought over come exam time. The smaller ones we snapped up right away, as they were typically less expensive (except in the case of Swinburne's Providence and the Problem of Evil, which despite it's 1/2 inch thickness weighed in at an impressive 45 bucks). If you did not locate these lighter readings within the first day of getting your syllabus you were unlikely to find them at all for several weeks.

So it was with no small amount of pride that I snatched the bookstore's final copy of Daniel Quinn's Ishmael. I knew that I'd made a good choice in picking this one up for myself; for starters it was cheap, and in addition to it's student-friendly price it was - get this - a novel. A novel about environmentalism and humanity. You can imagine what I was thinking at the time. We were supposed to read a tree-hugger novel for a college class? Well, sign me up.

On the cover of said novel there was a quote, one of those little soundbites that books have on their covers from famous people who had read it before it went to paperback. I don't remember who wrote the comment, it's not important now. But the comment itself seemed arrogant to me, as it read, "I will forever divide the books I have read into two categories; the ones I read before Ishmael and those read after."

When I read that, I snorted. Really. And then I laughed at it. What kind of narcissistic author puts a quote like that on his book cover? I was in serious doubt of my ability to take this book seriously from now on. In typical college freshman style I decided to go through this book and tear it to shreds. I was confident in my ability to utterly destroy any arguments and insights this self-centered author claimed to have. It was going to be great.

I read it twice in three days.

If you've never read it, I'm not sure how to describe it to you. You simply have to read it for yourself. Through a narrative form of fiction - similar to McLaren's NKOC trilogy - several simple, naturally observable truths about the world were presented and discussed. That's it. And through the course of these discussions I was changed.

It was the mental and emotional equivalent of living in Banff your whole life and suddenly and for the first time noticing the mountains. Or perhaps more accurately being a fish and observing that there was, in fact, this great vast wetness called "water" all around you, and you've never quite realized it was there. Through the conversation in the book I became aware of the influence of aspects of our culture that I had never been aware of before. I realized that the buzzing in my ears was really a cacophony of voices, all saying messages that I've been absorbing all my life without actually hearing them. In Christian terms, it was like becoming conscious of the Devil's voice in your ear, the voice of the cultural and worldly powers that had been seducing you all your life.

I'm trying to say that this book changed me. Not that it taught me, not that it gave me new ideas to think on. I'm saying that when I put the book down I was a fundamentally different person than I was before. The quote on the front no longer seemed arrogant but inadequate. Do you understand? I was no longer who I was before I read Ishmael, rather I was someone new, and going back to the way I was would simply not be possible. I can't think of any other way to say it.

I won't tell you what all occurred in the weeks that followed. I literally didn't know what to do with myself. I got into useless arguments with people who hadn't read the book, or with people who had and didn't get it. I flew into a rage at the simplest things - at someone suggesting we go to McDonald's, for example, or for talking about foreign aid policy. It was a rough month. But enough, leave it alone. It's not important now.

When I'd gotten myself as low as I could have thought, I sat up, took a shower, and decided to get on with it. I wrote my book review, got an A, then tracked down my prof and dragged him into a long, drawn-out conversation about environmentalism, the Bible, Ishmael, humanity and Christianity's place in all of the above. At around the same time I also read Genesis 3:17 (as I mentioned in part 1) and more things fell into place for me. I'm very thankful for my professor, as without him I'm not sure what I would have done.

So. It doesn't do me much good to tell you what happened to me and not tell you why, I suppose. I want to bring up three items I learned from Ishmael and how they affected me. These three points are by no means exhaustive of what the author had to say. I'm looking at them from a Christian perspective, so that "informs" them somewhat. I'm just trying to explain what affected me so deeply.

1. The world was not made for man. It's that simple. Ask anyone these days about the earth and you'll hear it, "OUR oceans," "OUR environment," "OUR oil reserves," "OUR crops." Among almost every single culture alive today there is a pervasive understanding that the world in its entirety belongs to us, so we can do what we damn well please with it. Things like pollution and environmental destruction, well, that's just because the world isn't far enough under our control. If it was, we could control the weather, repair the atmosphere, and continue squeezing every last drop of resources the world has to offer.

Or, in the "Christian" perspective, pollution et al. is a result of sinfulness. Mankind is essentially screwed up, therefore it's to be expected that the world is falling to pieces. And it doesn't really matter, anyways, because it's going to be consumed by fire and a brand new planet will be given to the faithful, one that we can't screw up. Besides, the world really does belong to us - or at least was made specifically for us to rule. We are the culmination of creation.

But in Ishmael, Quinn suggests that the very reason the planet is as bad off as it is is because we are treating it like a servant to do our bidding, or - at our worst - an enemy to be subdued. Hence our language about "natural disasters," which any scientist can tell you plain and simple have been going on for millions of years and are merely the product of a young planet. We have seen the destruction we have wrought because of treating the planet like it belongs to us. It's not ours.

2. Therefore, if the world was not made for us, we were made for the world. Humankind is a part of the order of creation. As was pointed out in the comments section last time, we are highly regarded by God - "higher than the angels" or something to that effect - and I think that's true. But I don't think that means we exist outside of the natural order.

Look at the symbiotic model in nature - the delicate balance between predator, prey, and population. It is a common enough belief that a population never expands beyond its food supply's ability to sustain them. If they did, they would starve and die off. Yet look at humanity - the only organism on the planet that exists in such a state of overpopulation. And we will go on overpopulating because we place no limits on ourselves. We are producing food for a population many times our current size. And millions are starving. Yet our first solution is "produce more food" rather than population control. We are living outside of the order that every other creature on the planet has lived under since the beginning, and we're suffering for it.

3. If man was made for the world, than in order to survive man must live according to its rules. This does not take away the "stewardship" aspect to our God-given nature - and I'll get into that more next week - but it does mean that we cannot expand indefinitely or abuse our environment. I don't think too many people will disagree with that. But what if that means giving something up?

In the movie "Instinct" with Anthony Hopkins and Cuba Gooding Jr, they deal with many of the ideas raised in Ishmael. At one point, Cuba's character asks something to the effect of, "Well, what do we have to do to save ourselves? Go back and live in the jungle? Give up the cities and everything else?" And Hopkins responds, "In order to save itself mankind must give up only one thing: dominion."

I think that it may be especially difficult for us Christians to deal with this last part. We have grown up with "Fill the earth and subdue it" in our ears, and I don't think we're likely to give that up easily. Again, I'll deal with Genesis next week. I think it's safe to say that if we lived according to the same laws as the lion and the bird and the wombat, the earth would look alot different. Would this be positive? Is it still possible?

I know this article falls drastically short of what Ishmael accomplished. Please take any shortcomings as mine and not Daniel Quinn's. I hope that in the comments section we can flesh this out a bit more. If you have anything to add, please share it.

19 Comments:

Blogger Wanderer said...

It really isn't so much a matter of whether or not we are willing to follow the planet's rules. We can't "give up dominion." We've never had it. Not completely. The earth is much bigger, and much more devastating than us. It can live without us. We can't live without it. One way or the other, the planet will win. Whether or not we also win depends on whether we are on the same team with the planet. Otherwise at the very least, we will all lose.

Fri Oct 21, 01:10:00 p.m. 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Grey Owl,

Excellent post. I wondered if you had been influenced by "Ishmael". So much to process.

First, I am not sure we can say the the earth was made for man OR that man was made for the earth. Both were made for God. Both were made for each other. Additionally, in this symbiosis, I am still not convinced that another order is intended. Not one that allows us to be at all dismissive of our present world, but one that transcends even the current beauty that exsists.

Second, while over population issues need to be addressed, we are FAR from it now. Rather, it is the way have developed that creates many of the conflicts that get blamed on over population. In Ishmael, the idea of Cain & Abel reflecting the move to property ownership touches on this.

Finally, I look forward to reading your thoughts on Genesis, because I suspect our rejection of "dominion" stems from our misunderstanding of the Biblical reference to the terms mean. I think we read it as "domination", which (as wanderer said) we never truly had in the first place. I am not sure what you mean about if we were able to live "according to the same laws as the lion and the bird and the wombat, the earth would look alot different".

I really believe these posts you have done are so crucial for us to discuss, so I appreciate it being here. I would say, though, that environmentalism seems to lack the scope of what you are really exploring.

Peace,
Jamie

Fri Oct 21, 06:53:00 p.m. 2005  
Blogger Cindy said...

Hey- Great post. Jamie's right. You're subject is much more in depth than just environmentalism. I don't know what I'd call it, though. If I have a brainstorm (ouch) I'll be back.

Fri Oct 21, 07:56:00 p.m. 2005  
Blogger Grey Owl said...

Wanderer - Good point, although I think that the primary sopurce of disagreement between you and the average christian would be your statement, "It can live without us". It is most definately more devastating, though.

Marc - glad I'm making you think! I've actually been reading through Job myself recently. I enjoy the long speech by God of him being in control of creation. Good times. And re: The hurricanes - there was a great conversation that went on at Maryellen's blog a few weeks ago. Check it out.

Jamie - you said, "I am not sure we can say the the earth was made for man OR that man was made for the earth. Both were made for God. Both were made for each other." I think I agree with you there, although I'm not sure how the world "needs" us. Do you mean in a spiritual sense or something more "practical?" I also think that it is not too soon to get on with it in terms of population control - we're running out of space...

I agree that out idea of "dominion" leaves much to be desired. What I mean by living as lions and wombats is that if we lived as a part of the created order - obeying natural laws and such - then we would not have all of the pollution and environmental abuse, so obviously the world would look a great deal different. Does that explain it?

Cindy - I agree, this is leaving environmentalism in the dust. Perhaps we are simply discussing good stewardship?

Sun Oct 23, 11:02:00 p.m. 2005  
Blogger John said...

I must be missing something here. Don't you think that all these conversations with people who'd read the book and didn't get it meant something? Ishmael obviously doesn't have an argument that people can grapple with. You apparently do so ditch the book and get on with building your case. Really, being an evangelist for Ishmael can only cloud an issue that you see very clearly. You may be wrong but if you are wrong on your own terms you will at least have made a contribution.

Wed Oct 26, 11:28:00 a.m. 2005  
Blogger Wanderer said...

John - Surely you can't deny that if a man reads a book, and sees the world differently once he has, that the book likely had something to do with it? The fact that so many didn't get it doesn't speak poorly for the book, the author, or the reader. It simply means they weren't compatible. Given his paraphrasing of the book, I think he has presented his own views upon having read the book, not clouded it with the book. I would say I now no a very little about what the book, which I have yet to read, said, but a much healthier knowledge about where Grey Owl stands in association with what the book said.

Wed Oct 26, 06:58:00 p.m. 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey dandy it's been a while. good thots. I have not yet, but will, read the book. It's interesting to explore the words a bit. The Genesis account, in translation, is responsible for much of our anthropocentric worldview. The hebrew word, kabash, translated 'subdue', comes from a term meaning "to make paths" [ie. to create order in the wilderness]. if the commission had been translated to go out and make paths on the earth, we might not have been so quick to develop such an arrogant view. V'yirdu, translated 'dominion' has its origin in words meaning 'to descend'. Neither means 'lord over' or 'plunder'.

Wed Oct 26, 09:45:00 p.m. 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bill,

I would be curious to hear where you are getting your Hebrew from, as my sources come up totally different. First, "subdue", which is kabash, does refer to "overcoming" (redemptively in Micah 7:19 in subduing inquities).

Second, "dominion" in the Genesis reference is radah, which throughout the Old Testament has the sense of overcoming.

So, while I favour your interpretations, I am not sure it can be supported (as I understand the Hebrew). I'd love to stand corrected.

Peace,
Jamie

Wed Oct 26, 11:25:00 p.m. 2005  
Blogger Grey Owl said...

John - I'm really not sure what you mean. I don't think I'm being an "Ishmael Evangelist" - I think I'll agree with what wanderer said: "I think he has presented his own views upon having read the book, not clouded it with the book." The book was integral to the shaping of my worldview, and I think trying to explain my POV without using Ishmael would be doing a disservice to a fine book.

oldbill - glad you're going to read the book. I think I like your interpretation better (no offence Jamie!) but I think I'm going to look into exactly what those words mean myself. Thanks for the input!

Jamie - I think we're in the same boat; bill's interp. sounds better but I want to make sure as to the validity before I sign off on it.

If anyone else out there has a good grasp of hebrew, perhaps they'd feel like sharing their thoughts?

Thu Oct 27, 12:13:00 a.m. 2005  
Blogger Cindy said...

I'm no scholar, but I found the same def's that Jamie found. Plus a note that says radah was used in the Talmud for "taking bread out of an oven."

Thu Oct 27, 08:24:00 a.m. 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is obvious that, as humanity, we have the power to destroy Creation (to the point where we have the technology to destroy the very planet). Perhaps "dominion" simply refers to the responsible use (or non-use) of this power. Just a thought...

Thu Oct 27, 10:49:00 a.m. 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

important disclaimer - I am no OT scholar/linguist, and so rely on secondary sources. And I was a bit sloppy in my example - but there are 2 key words 'kabash' [usually translated subdue] and 'radah' [usually translated dominion]. Both have got to do with walking, it appears. Kabash comes from a root word meaning to walk upon [and, accordingly, to make paths] but it can also mean stamp down. Radah [which comes from yarad/v'yirdu which means to go down, descend - or tread down. It's pretty easy to see how images of walking on something can be linked to domination [a la dominatrix?] cf. worthless salt good only to be trod upon. It's just that the words/text do not require this interpretation - and given our history with this concept, alternative possible interpretations might not be a bad thing.

My wife's family has a 28 acre island at L of the Woods, There are paths across it, around it, which every year people clear. In the spring there's undergrowth that we walk on . . . but somehow that image is still different that the idea that we are to dominate the island = it's a more peaceful co-existent image.

Thu Oct 27, 02:29:00 p.m. 2005  
Blogger Arthur Brokop II said...

here is my two cents concerning the population problem - from the point of view of a child of the 60's with a Catholic prespective.
the problem is not population, the problem is greed. there is enough space, enough resources to provide the basic needs of all the 6 billion + individual souls on this planet, but the human soul is inherently selfish and greedy. When we say we are over populated we then begin to promote the idea of population control, which actually goes against the very first commandment God gave, and then regave after the great flood.
Psalm 8 tells us to be stewards of the planet. I believe the world was created for us, to be our home.
And we have trashed it.
I believe creation, the power and glory and even fury of it, serves as a testamony to the God who created it. But I have not read Ishmael. And I think I'll ask my dear resident scholar to look into the meanings of subdue and dominion.

Sat Oct 29, 10:13:00 a.m. 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mary Ellen,

I think you make an excellent point that is too often overlooked. Thanks!

Peace,
Jamie

Sat Oct 29, 10:16:00 a.m. 2005  
Blogger Grey Owl said...

Jamie - I think you are correct that, at the very least, ""dominion" simply refers to the responsible use (or non-use) of this power". Good point.

Bill - I enjoyed your perspective. Thanks! And I've been out to Lake of the Woods before, it's a beautiful area. NOt too far from my cabin either.

Maryellen - I'm not sure that population control is against scripture. Sure, fill the earth, but it doesn't say fill it until we choke it with our sheer numbers... maybe we've taken that too far as well.

Sat Oct 29, 01:40:00 p.m. 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dan,

I grew up on the banks of the Rainy River only 7 miles from where it fed into Lake of the Woods. I consider it home. I still dream of a cabin there for the explicit purpose of community, theological reflection, etc.

Peace,
Jamie

Sat Oct 29, 05:22:00 p.m. 2005  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dan,

I just started reading "Ishmael". Lots to discuss. BTW, did you know he wrote a sequel to it, entitled "My Ishmael"?

Peace,
Jamie

Sun Oct 30, 03:34:00 p.m. 2005  
Blogger Curt said...

Maryellen wrote: "Psalm 8 tells us to be stewards of the planet. I believe the world was created for us, to be our home."

Daniel Quinn answered a question concerning the subject of being stewards of the planet. I pulled this off the Question and Answer section at The Ishmael Community (www.ishmael.com)

Here it is:

The Question (ID Number 162)...
"I think you there may be a problem with tracing it all to "totalitarian agriculture'. It is really "pure totalitarianism', which has been called 'original sin' or 'hubris' by Christian theologians. And while you may be right in saying that our civilization believes that God placed humanity on earth to CONQUER it, you are wrong in implying that this is a Christian position. Christians believe that we are placed here as STEWARDS, not conquerors."

...and the response:
"We are no more qualified to be stewards of the earth than we are to be its rulers. The earth got along just fine without our stewardship for three billion years." Daniel Quinn http://www.ishmael.com/Interaction/QandA/Detail.CFM?Record=162

Curt

Sun Nov 13, 04:16:00 p.m. 2005  
Blogger Curt said...

Marc wrote: Seems to me that if there is any real 'judgement of God' behind Katrina and Rita here in the states, it is in the sense that we believe that our technology will save us, and that we don't need God.

On the subject of "technology saving us",(In which I know your not trying to say it will) you may want to check out Jason Godesky's blog titled: "Thesis #16: Technology cannot stop collapse." http://anthropik.com/2005/11/thesis-16-technology-cannot-stop-collapse/

It's intersting, to say the least.

Curt

Sun Nov 13, 04:23:00 p.m. 2005  

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